Comments on: Introducing the 12 Volt “Shelf” https://www.ceoutlook.com/2018/05/31/introducing-the-12-volt-shelf/ News, analysis and comments on the car audio and electronics industry Wed, 06 Jun 2018 23:03:28 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.0.3 By: Vehroot https://www.ceoutlook.com/2018/05/31/introducing-the-12-volt-shelf/#comment-16629 Wed, 06 Jun 2018 23:03:28 +0000 https://www.ceoutlook.com/?p=64459#comment-16629 In reply to Bill.

Well, we can only hope that enough people do not share your opinion so that we remain profitable. When my dad first listened to the Beatles in a record store, he commented to his buddies, “no one will remember these guys in a month”. And while he never did buy a Beetles album (he was a Bee Gees guy) there were many who held a different opinion 😉
-Vehroot LLC

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By: Bill https://www.ceoutlook.com/2018/05/31/introducing-the-12-volt-shelf/#comment-16627 Wed, 06 Jun 2018 18:18:57 +0000 https://www.ceoutlook.com/?p=64459#comment-16627 In reply to Shaun Trites.

Other than wireless charging and CVC, this doesn’t offer much that’s not already in the market vastly. A $69 Pioneer head unit works with steering wheel controls if you add a $40 adapter. And yes, you can remap the controls anyway you want with those. CVC may be nice, but it’s not some world-changing tech when that same $69 Pioneer has an external mic that many find acceptable. And heck, Qi certified charging pads are like 20 bucks on Amazon. I’m sorry you guys chose the most expensive option for every single feature. All that cost clearly adds up. But you need to look at the game-changing differences that are obvious to the untrained average customer versus a cheap head unit from Pioneer. At the end of the day, it’s a mechless screenless double-din head unit that you’re trying to charge 500 bucks for.

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By: Shaun Trites https://www.ceoutlook.com/2018/05/31/introducing-the-12-volt-shelf/#comment-16623 Fri, 01 Jun 2018 15:31:05 +0000 https://www.ceoutlook.com/?p=64459#comment-16623 FYI, for those or someone you know???
Vehroot is looking for influencers to evaluate our latest prototype Shelf! Several to give away! Please apply if you have a social media presence on Facebook, YouTube, LinkedIn, and/or Instagram affiliated with automotive and/or technology.

https://vehroot.com/pages/prototype-giveaway

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By: Shaun Trites https://www.ceoutlook.com/2018/05/31/introducing-the-12-volt-shelf/#comment-16621 Fri, 01 Jun 2018 14:34:41 +0000 https://www.ceoutlook.com/?p=64459#comment-16621 Thanks! We love hearing from real people… Having one of these in my as well as my wife’s car has really changed how we both enjoy our entertainment. And the same for all of our owners and their wives… Honestly if we can make our wives happy we know any of our biggest skeptics will be wooed by the Shelf after they try it.

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By: Sean Cahill https://www.ceoutlook.com/2018/05/31/introducing-the-12-volt-shelf/#comment-16620 Fri, 01 Jun 2018 13:57:44 +0000 https://www.ceoutlook.com/?p=64459#comment-16620 Props to Vehroot for jumping in the shark pool and providing additional info!

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By: Vehroot https://www.ceoutlook.com/2018/05/31/introducing-the-12-volt-shelf/#comment-16618 Fri, 01 Jun 2018 03:11:01 +0000 https://www.ceoutlook.com/?p=64459#comment-16618 In reply to Gregg.

The Shelf offers HD Bluetooth audio which is a $1,500 entry option on Sony car stereos. The Shelf also uses Qualcomm’s Clear Voice Capture (CVC) for hands-free calling, the latest industry standards with wireless (QI) charging, built-in microphones, and a long list of high quality features. Check out Vehroot’s social media and website for more details. Or better yet, message us directly at social@vehroot.com. We’d love to debate cost with you 😉
Vehroot LLC

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By: Shaun Trites https://www.ceoutlook.com/2018/05/31/introducing-the-12-volt-shelf/#comment-16617 Fri, 01 Jun 2018 03:10:00 +0000 https://www.ceoutlook.com/?p=64459#comment-16617 Hell yeah it’s worth $500!

Visit our Facebook page and see why!

http://www.facebook.com/vehrootllc/posts/1388313581295440?comment_id=1398552270271571&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R%22%7D

Vehroot LLC

Vehroot LLC

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By: Vehroot https://www.ceoutlook.com/2018/05/31/introducing-the-12-volt-shelf/#comment-16616 Fri, 01 Jun 2018 03:06:30 +0000 https://www.ceoutlook.com/?p=64459#comment-16616 In reply to g.

Steve Downing from Gentex said it best “VOXX is an automotive electronics and distribution powerhouse”. And if Vehroot ever shows up on their radar I hope we can work together!
Vehroot LLC

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By: Vehroot https://www.ceoutlook.com/2018/05/31/introducing-the-12-volt-shelf/#comment-16609 Fri, 01 Jun 2018 02:51:46 +0000 https://www.ceoutlook.com/?p=64459#comment-16609 In reply to Rick.

Sony is innovative with car audio but hasn’t delivered a car stereo to hold a tablet. The Sony XSP-N1BT stereo did hold a smartphone on the dash but doesn’t support larger phones like the iPhone Plus series. Sony has never made a car stereo to support any size device, or with wireless (QI) charging, or with an always-on USB charging port, or with an AI trigger button, or supporting multiple device Bluetooth pairing, or with built-in microphones. The Shelf is unlike any other car stereo ever.
Vehroot LLC

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By: Shaun Trites https://www.ceoutlook.com/2018/05/31/introducing-the-12-volt-shelf/#comment-16608 Fri, 01 Jun 2018 02:46:52 +0000 https://www.ceoutlook.com/?p=64459#comment-16608 In reply to Gregg.

The Shelf provides technology required to remove mobile devices from people’s hands. If we reduce current features (and cost) people will continue to set their phone on their lap while navigating, or hold it in their hand while talking, or text on small keyboards, or open apps, and continue to do some or all of the dangerous things everyone does today. While aware of the dangers, we just refuse to set the mother-lovin phone down while driving. The Self’s value is mostly in its ability to enable drivers to release their grip on phones and tablets while driving.
1) The Shelf integrates with the vehicle steering controls. The Shelf maps every mobile device audio control function, along with a patented AI trigger, to your vehicle steering controls. This patented technology is expensive to integrate within our circuitry and software, and is not available in any other vehicle stereo. This cost enables your mobile device to operate fully as the vehicle stereo, without looking at or touching the device.
2) The Shelf offers dual microphones set directly on the circuit board (not an external mic) and that use QUALCOMM’s Clear Voice Capture (CVC) technology for hands-free calling and AI dialogue. Our microphones (Knowles) and noise-cancellation software (QUALCOMM) are the same used in high-end phones. Very few aftermarket stereos (I could argue none) provide good (or even decent) hands-free calling solutions. And no other vehicle stereo provides direct, full function dialogue with Siri and Google.
3) The Shelf grip materials keep your device securely in place. Perhaps the least understood aspect of the Shelf is its unique method to secure devices. The grip materials are custom made for Vehroot to provide a simple and reliable method of storage. We are currently filming Baja drivers using the Shelf with an iPad mini while driving and jumping (airborne!) over rocks. We’ve invested heavily into these gripping materials and you will not find anything like them on any other product. These gripping surfaces are not tacky to the touch, do not leave residue, will maintain positive grip in extreme driving conditions, and provide simplified placement and removal.
We have cut costs already in every way possible not affecting safety. For example, we scraped NFC integration, removed OBD-II diagnostic integration, and have delayed all mobile device app development which will eventually provide two-way dialogue between vehicle systems and mobile devices. We will offer these additional features, and many more in the future, but today we focus on enabling safe audio, navigation, and communication with your mobile device in vehicles. True safety. With the Shelf you have full unlimited use of your mobile devices with safety equal (or greater) to that of traditional vehicle stereos. We (Vehroot) believe that removing any the Shelf’s current features, and cost, will limit access to the mobile device and limit safety.

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By: Shaun Trites https://www.ceoutlook.com/2018/05/31/introducing-the-12-volt-shelf/#comment-16607 Fri, 01 Jun 2018 02:45:47 +0000 https://www.ceoutlook.com/?p=64459#comment-16607 In reply to Bill.

Replying to “Honestly, it’s not a terrible idea”
First off, thanks for commenting! And yes! some vehicles dash will obstruct a 10″ tablet when they set it on the Shelf! But today’s 6″ phones fit perfectly ( and in perfect viewing ) on the Vehroot Shelf. And yes, we have integration for all steering controls that once you pair via Bluetooth your steering buttons then controls your phone! And you can choose to map one of your steering buttons to call Siri or OK Google!

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By: Rick https://www.ceoutlook.com/2018/05/31/introducing-the-12-volt-shelf/#comment-16599 Thu, 31 May 2018 23:29:56 +0000 https://www.ceoutlook.com/?p=64459#comment-16599 Sony already did this years ago…

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By: Amy Gilroy https://www.ceoutlook.com/2018/05/31/introducing-the-12-volt-shelf/#comment-16598 Thu, 31 May 2018 16:51:23 +0000 https://www.ceoutlook.com/?p=64459#comment-16598 In reply to scott rosen.

It works with iOS devices and Android devices. It’s just that Samsung and Apple devices don’t yet have the APTX HD for higher res Bluetooth audio streaming.

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By: g https://www.ceoutlook.com/2018/05/31/introducing-the-12-volt-shelf/#comment-16597 Thu, 31 May 2018 16:26:57 +0000 https://www.ceoutlook.com/?p=64459#comment-16597 voxx will get the distribution when they fail.

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By: scott rosen https://www.ceoutlook.com/2018/05/31/introducing-the-12-volt-shelf/#comment-16596 Thu, 31 May 2018 16:20:17 +0000 https://www.ceoutlook.com/?p=64459#comment-16596 that’s dumb.it says it works with siri but not compatible with i-phone

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By: Gregg https://www.ceoutlook.com/2018/05/31/introducing-the-12-volt-shelf/#comment-16595 Thu, 31 May 2018 16:16:14 +0000 https://www.ceoutlook.com/?p=64459#comment-16595 I agree, It’s a cute idea, Maybe worth $99-$199. But $500? No way

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By: a https://www.ceoutlook.com/2018/05/31/introducing-the-12-volt-shelf/#comment-16594 Thu, 31 May 2018 15:59:29 +0000 https://www.ceoutlook.com/?p=64459#comment-16594 Ummmm…..didn;t Sony have this like 4 years ago….and Oxygen made the OCAR 10 years ago?

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By: Sean https://www.ceoutlook.com/2018/05/31/introducing-the-12-volt-shelf/#comment-16593 Thu, 31 May 2018 14:30:48 +0000 https://www.ceoutlook.com/?p=64459#comment-16593 In reply to Bill.

“Users can stream music over Bluetooth to the car’s sound system and control the device through the factory steering wheel controls.”

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By: Bill https://www.ceoutlook.com/2018/05/31/introducing-the-12-volt-shelf/#comment-16591 Thu, 31 May 2018 13:28:48 +0000 https://www.ceoutlook.com/?p=64459#comment-16591 Honestly, it’s not a terrible idea. There’s going to be some application hurdles fitting certain phones/tablets into the factory head unit location/dash properly or blocking AC vents etc. And I hope it works with steering wheel controls? But that price tag is ridiculous for no reason. It’s a mechless SCREENLESS device.

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